FAKAHA Wrote:
Oku ikai ke kovi ha siasi, he oku tau tui Otua taha pe. Koe Kakai pe eni oku tonu ke fix enau laumalie... Oku ma'alahi pe Otua ia. If you see all the problems at church, it will always come down to money. I don't understand why faifekau's allow li pa'anga and negotiate money in the church. I don't know why you call yourself's christians and Holy people if you do such evil deeds in church...why do you say it!, and yet you do other things...? Don't they acknowledge Gods words when he turned the tables over in the temple:
Jesus said to all the people there, "It is written in the Scriptures 'My house will be called a house for prayer. But you are changing God's house into a 'hiding place for thieves.'
you see...Give to Ceasar what belongs to ceasar and give to GOD what belongs to GOD.
Pea tau sio ai...
Help.
Do some thing.
He koe fale a sihova oku precious!
Help stand up for whats right and whats wrong..
Malo aupito...
Ofa lahi atu kiate ki moutolu katoa, mei Nu'usila....
Tua Eiki ofa atu..
FAKAHA
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(05-01-2010 07:27 PM)kulukulu Wrote: [ -> ]kumu Wrote:kava lahi Wrote:kumu Wrote:kulukulu Wrote:Sani,,malo mu'a kau mai kihe lavelave koeni,,kou tui au 'oku 'ikai keu fu'u tui kiho'o fakakaukau,,kataki pe tokoua,,ka kou tui koe Mosilemi,,koe siasi ia 'oku lolotonga hoko ai e tau he middle east he taimi ni,,ko'eku 'uhinga,,he ko 'enau tui kapau tenau fakahoko ha fo'i taumu'a ke suasaiti pe to'o ha mo'ui 'oha kakai tokolahi hange koe ngaahi fakapa pomu 'oku nau fai takai holo pea tenau 'alu kinautolu kia 'Ala('otua) 'o nofo fakataha moia ia 'i Hevani,,pea kou pehe 'oku 'ikai koe mo'oni ia,,halamama'o 'aupito 'ae Mosilemi,,teu pehe pe koe siasi tamate mo'ui ia moe kakai sai'ia he taufana mo fakapoongi 'oha mo'ui,,'oku 'ikai koe taumu'a ia 'oe lotu mo'oni ke to'o ha mo'ui ka koe Fakamo'ui hange koe folofola 'ae 'Eiki,,
teu pehe Sani 'oku ki'i Olioli ange pe katolika he Mosilemi,,malo,,
Kumu kofe koe?Fai moke hu mai 'o tali mai 'eku fehu'i,,he koena ko 'Alo ena mo Rasta tena ma'u'i koe,,lolotonga pe 'eku ma'u'i koe,,hahahahaha,,'osi talaatu ke 'oleva ho'o kaikaila he teke kelekelea ai,,I'm still waiting 4 your ans bro(Kumu),,
masii kulu kataki koe kii ai pe ketau aa ka oku sai ai leva ketau lele a i hoomou foi mea koena mo alo mo ras he oku osi fkofoofa kotoa pe e u mea kuomou tuku maii ofa atu tokoua pea oua e tuku ai e ngaahi ngaue leleii.
kau tangata me'a ifo mo'oni koe talanoa peamo Kumu kou tui koe anga ia e tangata he 'oku hoko 'etau felingiaki ke ako ai ha fa'ahinga,,kumu kou fkmaloo atu ho'o ma'u ha loto ma'ulalo ketau kau fktaha ihe kaveingani.....kulu,rasta mo sani ko 'ena koe siana 'ena kuo tukulolo pea 'oku mahino ai koe tangata kumu ia na'e saiange ene akoo pea ikai ke kikihi ia o hangee koha fa'ahinga kakai nae ikai ako..ofa atu..
koeku lau kava kia kulu ta koena ne osi au ia kihe tuunga patele kae toe feinga mai ia kene tuki pohu holo a kumu oku ikai sii au ene ilo fkpalofita kihe u mea kuo au kiaii mahalo pe kava e mau aipe haatau ifo koe atunga ia e nofo motuu masii oku mau kii uhouha pea koe ifo atu hono fai e mea oku saia ai kava ae tokotokoto pe i mohenga o siosio pe ki tahi ofa atu ka koe mo kulu kemo mau ha aho sapete fonu ihe kelesi ia pea koe toki ai eni ke fai ha feinga ki neiafu kihe misaa ka oku talamai e hoa kema kii malolo pe o lotu pe i mohenga ni hee oku uha lahi aupito a motuni.
Kumu,,'oku 'ikai 'uhinga 'eku mavahe 'aku mei he tu'unga patele koha fa'ahinga 'hinga kovi mo taufehi'a kihe Siasi na'a te mateaki'i,,ka koe anga pe ia 'etau mo'ui he mamani kuo pau pe ketau toe ki'i vakavakai holo kihe ngaahi tafa'aki koee,,na'a 'oku 'iai ha toe ki'i fo'i maama ai 'oku toe makehe ange,,ka ko'eku tui,,'oku ou kei faka'apa'apa'i lahi pe 'ae siasi na'aku tupu hake ai,,he koe siasi ia na'ane tomu'a fakafe'iloaki kihe motu'a ni 'oku 'iai ha "otua mo'ui 'oku tau lotu kiai,,pea koe kamata'anga 'ae 'ilo kihe lotu fakakalisitiane 'ae motu'a ni ne kamata ia mei he siasi 'oku 'iai,,ka 'oku ou fakmalo pe kiai,,he na'e kamata ai hono teuteu'i 'ae motu'a ni ke "ilo 'oku 'iai ha 'Otua,,malo tokoua,,
Kava,,fefe hake homou tuliki tokoua,,masi'i malo e kei pukepuke mai e fonua,,lol,,
Malo mu'a kulu e felafoaki moe pukepuke mai hotau palepale ni. Kou malie'ia ho'omo fetapa mo kumu...ka 'oku mahino 'a e mamaha e 'ilo 'a kumu ki he hisitolia 'o e lotu. Na'u faka'amu pe ke manatu'i 'e kumu koe katolika loma 'oku 'ikai koha siasi...ka koe mafai fakapolitikale. 'Aeee koee na'a ne pule ke tutuki 'a e fakamo'ui ki he kolosi. Kimu'a 'ia pita mo sisuuu na'e 'osi 'iai pe mafai ia koeni...ka na'a nau toki hu mai 'o pule'i e lotu he ko hono mafai ne fakamanavahe hono ivi, 'o tupu mei ai e lotu loma. 'I he kuonga 'o e Reformation, koe taimi ia ne fakamahino ai 'ehe kau ako folofola 'a e fakapo'uli looloo kuo taki atu kiai 'ehe lotu loma 'a e siasi fakakalisitiane. Na'e tu'ukimu'a heni 'a e tangata monk koia ko Martin Luther, 'a ia na'e vakili 'e he Tu'itapu 'a 'Iulope ke tamate'i...'oku ki'i loloa e talanoa...ka e tuku keu toe fakamanatu atu pe....Ka ai ha siasi (or an individual) 'oku fenapasi 'enau mo'ui moe akonaki 'a Sisu (folofola), koe mo'oni ia full stop. Me'apango he ko'etau ngaahi siasi, 'oku base he tukufakaholo moe taufatungamotu'a...kae 'ikai koe folofola...pea kuo matu'aki si'aki pe 'ehe tokolahi ia 'a e akonaki mo'oni koe'uhi koe mamahi'i siasi pe.... 'Ofa atu kau lafo.
(05-27-2011 11:02 PM)smithyuvar Wrote: [ -> ]Which language is this man...
Heavenly language man... if you make it there!!!
Malo 'etau kei mo'ui, pea malo e fifili, ko e fifili 'ena 'oku 'i he Kalisitiane kotoa pe, Koe'uhi 'oku 'ikai keke kau kiha lotu, pea 'oku kalasi kehekehe 'a e Siasi 'i Mamani !! ka 'oku tau 'ilo 'a e 'Otua mo 'ene fakamo'ui, Ko e Siasi 'oku mo'oni 'oku anga pehe ni, Ko e lisi 'o e kakai he Siasi ko ia ko e Tohi 'o e Mo'ui, pea 'oku toki tali ui pe ia he 'aho fakamui, Ko e founga ki he kau ki he Siasi ko ia 'oku anga pehe ni ! 'oku 'i ai 'a e Tohitapu pea mo hono talanoa mo'oni mo e kakai kuo nau malanga'i, teke 'uluaki fanongo ki he Talanoa 'o e Folofola pea ke Fakatomala 'o tui ki ai hili ia pea ke fanau'ifo'ou, pea ohi ai ho'o mo'ui 'i he ngaahi lau 'a e Tohitapu mo talangofua kakato ki he lau 'a e Tohitapu , pea kapau teke lava'i ia teke kau he Siasi mo'oni, Koe'uhi ko e Siasi ko ha kakai 'oku nau tui taha ki ha 'Otua pe 'e taha, pea kapau ke fie 'ilo ki he Siasi Mo'oni 'oku malava pe ia keke kau ki ai 'i ho'o 'i 'api pe, ka ko e founga 'ena mo e ki'i tokoni kapau ke fie kau ki he Siasi ko ia 'oku mo'oni. Ko hono ui 'o e Siasi ko ia ko e Universal Church 'a ia ko e Siasi ia 'oku fai pe ia 'i Laumalie mo Mo'oni he kuo 'osi tokolahi e kakai ia he Siasi ko ia ka ko e toe pe 'eni ke tau kau ki ai, pea 'oku 'ikai ke fakahingoa ia hange ko e ngaahi Siasi 'i Mamani 'o pehe Katolika pe Uesiliana ka ko e kakai mo e fanau 'a e 'Otua. malo kataki na 'oku 'ikai ke hoa ia moho fehu'i ,
'Ofa atu
(09-23-2008 03:48 AM)lcnnj Wrote: [ -> ]pakolosi Wrote:4USTongans Wrote:Malo Icnnj, 'Oku 'ikai teu tui au 'oku 'iai ha siasi 'e mo'oni pe loi. Koe ngaahi fakakaukau ni koe fakatupu kotoa pe 'e he tangata 'o fakatatau ki he 'enau fiema'u 'o fakatatau ki hono taimi. Hange ko 'eku lau atu ki mu'a, When lies gets older, it becomes the truth. Religion is just another form of control.[/b]
oku malie hoomou vahevahe
kataki pe lcnnj, kapau te u toe kii tanaki atu e toe fo'i fehui mahuinga ko eni
"Ko e ha ko aa a e Siasi?"
kuo tau fihia tuu i he fokotu'u Siasi. Nae i ai e ngaahi fakakaukau lelei, i hono taimi, o e femavahe'aki a e ngaahi siasi ia e niihi.
kaikehe, ko enau taumu'a pe foki nae makatuunga i he fehu'i tatau mo ia kuo ke omai....i hono fakakatoa oku ou kauhala taha pea mo 4UStongans i olunga.
Nae kamata a e faaitaha a e ngaahi siasi kalisitiane i he fuofua Kosilio o Nicea he 325 AD i hono tongi fakataha a e tohi tapu e taha maae kalisitiane. Nae toki mapakipaki a e kakai koeuhi ko enau taefiemalie(pe oku makatuunga enau taefiemalie mei ha tefitoi mooni pe ko e feinga mau kakai pe).
Taha o e ngaahi uhinga tefito o e fepakipaki mo e femavahevahe ko e fakauhingai o e Tohi Tapu...
Kiate au, ko e lotu mo e Tui ko e ongo foi tefito'i filosofia oku practical...oku i ai a e ngaahi fakauhinga oku pelepelengesi mo iku ki he lelei, ka oku fekauaki ia mo e tuunga fakaatamai, a ia oku ne tataki a e loto.
kaikehe, oku hulu'i mai e hoo fehu'i mo e tali a 4USTongans a e tuunga na'e i ai a Tonga he hili hono enact e konisitutone. Nae langai e mapaki mei Aositelelia mo Pilitania(a e methodist) i he uhinga fakapule. Nae kamata ke influence lahi ange a e Siasi, i he puleanga mo e Tu'i. Fakataha ki ai mo e lava e he tanaki misinale ke drain e moui a e kakai.
Faka'apa'apa pe au ki he Tokateline a e Uesiliana, I am no better. I am one though by birth. Ka okapau te tau toe ki'i sio fakalelei ange, na'e tanaki e misinale mei he kakai o ave ki Aositelelia ke langa aki honau ngaahi fu'u falelotu, a e fuu fonua tuumalie ko ia, kae kei nofo holo e kakai ia o lotu he lalo akau.
Kuo pau ai ke fakapapau'i e Tupou I oku ne kei pule ki hono kakai. Oku ikai ko ha laulau veesi malie a ha faifekau.
Kaekehe, te u fakamanatu atu eni. Ko e lau ki he Siasi "mo'oni" kuo iku ai ki he lingi e toto lahitaha i mamani. Tau mo e faka'auha. Mei hono faka'auha o Selusalema, Kaluseti, kau ai mo e Tau Lahi Hono Ua. Pea lilingi kotoa i he hingoa o Kalaisi, mo e lotu mo'oni.
Sad eh??? Even now, your question can give the main reason why there are Muslim Terrorists. Yes, they say that Christ is a Muslim. You know what "muslim" mean? "Surrender to the Will of God."
"Religion is the lunacy of every denomination, beholding to declare the Will of God."
Real object of true religion, by my interpretation should have been: "It is not indoctrination we are after, it is rather redemption and emancipation."
ko au ia...mahalo pe e tokoni atu
Malo 'aupito e tokoni, pea ko e 'uhinga foki 'eku fehu'i he kuo lahi 'aupito e me'a ko e fokotu'u siasi 'i AUS 'i ho tau kakai pea 'oku faka'ofa 'aupito 'a e si'i to'e 'a e kainga 'i he 'ave 'ehe ngahi siasi 'enau pa'anga ka e 'ikai ke totongi 'a e feleti mo e mortgage.
'Oku ou ngaue foki mo ha kakai fai totonu, tauhi Lao, 'ofa honau ngahi mali mo e fanau pea 'oku nau ma'u ha 'ofa mo e faka'apa'apa ki he kakai kotoa pe. Ko e kakai foki ko eni 'oku 'ikai ke nau kau ki ha fa'ahinga siasi, ka ko e me'a 'oku ou mahu'inga lahi taha heni ko e kakai lelei kinautolu 'i he fonua pea kiate au mo 'eku tui ko e kakai eni te nau ma'u 'a Hevani.
Icnnj e, koe tali pe'ena ki ho'o fehu'i 'oku ke 'osi lave kiai. Koe fai lelei, fai totonu, tauhi lao mo ma'u e 'ofa koe lotu pe ia moe siasi 'oku mo'oni. 'Oku 'ikai koe 'alu pe pe koe kau ha fai'anga lotu peate hoko leva kita koha tokotaha lelei mo ma'oni'oni etc. 'Oku ou tui au ka ko 'ete ma'u pe me'a koe 'OFA MO FAI-TOTONU 'i he'ete mo'ui pea koe siasi moe lotu pe ia 'oku mo'oni. Mo'oni ho'o lau kihe lahi 'ae fokotu'u siasi hotau kainga he ngaahi fonua kehe2 'i mamani. Pea taimi tatau, koe lahi atu e palema ia he ngaahi fai'anga lotu ni....................Koia ai Icnnj, me'a mahu'inga pe 'ena ia 'oku ke ngaue moe kakai lelei he tapa kehekehe 'oe mo'ui. mahalo ko ho'o ngaue'anga ia 'o'ou koe siasi mo'oni ia he 'oku tokolahi ai e kakai fai lelei.hihihi..........
Tonu ke toe fkfokimai 'ae KAHOA TAULEVA tahataha 'ae siasi 'oku mo'oni pea nau tapuni kinau3,'oku fanongo atu ha taha koe ha 'ae me'a 'oku hoko kihe kau memipa???????
'Oku 'iai 'ae fokotu'u fkkaukau na'a lava keu fokotu'u 'i [LOTOSENE]
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(06-06-2011 05:27 PM)Rastaman Wrote: [ -> ]Tonu ke toe fkfokimai 'ae KAHOA TAULEVA tahataha 'ae siasi 'oku mo'oni pea nau tapuni kinau3,'oku fanongo atu ha taha koe ha 'ae me'a 'oku hoko kihe kau memipa???????
'Oku 'iai 'ae fokotu'u fkkaukau na'a lava keu fokotu'u 'i [LOTOSENE]
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Óku mau maau mo fktatali moe matakali Samoa kihe teu fktautuki óe fuú Palasi ó Tupou4 lolotonga kei fkmaau éhe Bank áe ngaahi meá fkpepa koe fktau cash éhe matakali ni,koe meá ni é malava éhe kainga tonga ó malava ke mau álu moe kainga Samoa ó maú áe fuú ápi kuo tuku ki langi,ngali moóni ange áe Ótua óe matakali ni he Ótua óku tuúlutui kiai áe tonga ia hahaha...........
Talakoe kautaha hono lesisita,kae muimui atu koe Siasi óku kamata áki áe founga shifty kakaa,pea óku áfio hifo áe Éiki kihe kakaa hono fai éhe kau Taulaéiki Tonga,tuku aa áe lotu moe fktupu houhau ki Langi ko étau kei masiva koe ngaue áe kau takilotu,ko moutolu pe foki,hahaha....... mou omai katoa áe kau paipa he lotu ó tokoni mai hono fklaálaá éku tapaka tonga koéni óku pau ange ia he tautauhele veka koéna óku mou matemate kalangaáki mei Saione........hihihihihihi.............
