note 1: night doesn't cause day anymore now that the laws of gravitation have obliterated the need for causality in that realm, so please don't tell me I'm unappreciative wrt the next point that often
gets raised. i see it as a issue of being bogged down in matters of familar scale, where we're so used to function and cause.
note 2: yes, i am under the weather. wrote a lot of this while seeing my father thru palliative chemo. the christians around us just bog us & dad down in how we just want to laugh about what's coming next. they are just always so sad! so scuse me for just cutting loose with my real flow... & thanks...
Kay Neich Wrote:note 2: yes, i am under the weather. wrote a lot of this while seeing my father thru palliative chemo. the christians around us just bog us & dad down in how we just want to laugh about what's coming next. they are just always so sad! so scuse me for just cutting loose with my real flow... & thanks...
morning Kay, although I do not believe in "new years" as they are a man made thing where as "seasons" are the only God divine designed of nature. However, for argument sake, it seems like your happiness/sad etc are determined by your surroundings (or people around you) and please correct me if I'm wrong. Can I suggest that you try and forget about your surroundings for you can't change them, the only thing or person you can change is "YOU". So, forget about "them" and concentrate in building the inner "you". Once you make peace with "you", you will realise that the surroundings are not the problem anymore. Does this seem I care?
Perfect sense, Kehekehe. I also think my 'vernacular', for want of a better word, tends to make some people think even more that I'm having a crisis, when I'm actually having fun, making observations, trying (aargh, God, how I fail!) not to get in others' way. I've noticed by being around many community advocates (PIs & disability groups), they just have to come across as so forceful, definite and sure of themselves, whereas I am trained actually to at times be hesitant, tentative, offer ifs, buts and maybes... that sorta-kinda thing(!) ... and that works great when I'm around similar, but others just don't get it. I think to many, it's a weakness. To me, it's a way of conferring respect.
Of course I know you care, Kehekehe, I never doubted that for a sec! You've been great!!!!!!!!!
yeah, yeah, yeah of course i get the inner peace part. just listen to what i've already said, please.
(that was a bit of the criticism with self-help groups in the 80s - anyone could say "you're not at peace, you're not at peace, work at it. you can only change yourself, not others" at any point, not realising, um, well, ... er...)...
listen and think about it, Kehekehe. And thanks for the reminders, coz we all need some from time to time. Having the odd moan still, that's just human! perspective and proportion are important, and maybe the way I've become used to trying to comunicate ends up getting overblown in order to just get through at times. I've come to a happy understanding of this - it helped to get my head around in order to, as you say - detach. (um, that is, from the situation, not my head!).
so, to a degree, i spose i'm just describing.
btw, family first, maxim institute, sensible sentencing, that wierd binding referenda lobby all get on the goat of people like me. labour had 9 yrs and left us sitting ducks to such clowns. there's an article in the herald from about a week back, "100% Pure Hype" i forgot to read and must do. seems we've all forgotten what does matter one hell of a lot to me, and have succumbed to pretty sensationalist tripe. Some retired anglican priest/bishop/deacon/minister (I dunno what they're called!) wrote a brilliant letter about it in the Herald tonight.
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Now you know I read my morning paper at night...
Kehekehe, you've just reminded me, and perhaps it's just the same message as your's in another form. I get to a place where I just let my vulnerabilities be.
The selfhelp codependancy movement was only half hearted about it. Carol Tavris put paid to that, and Jiddu Krishnamurti, although a popularizer, is still good in how he popularized some Vedic script for the west more properly.
Go Google. And please can you work out in your own mind just how to let others ~be~ with their vulnerability, coz I think we need more of that....
it wouldn't take much to relate more of what I what I"ve said much earlier back onto topic now, imo.
Whoops, I meant to say...
Kay Neich Wrote:it wouldn't take much to relate more of what I"ve said much earlier back onto topic now, imo.
Good mornning...
I hope any potential employer of mine will just see these rough notes of mine for what these are - typos and poorly constructed noise galore. I was in a hurry to eat breakfast last time I wrote. I can give an ancient site of mine,
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/endurin...tive.html, for a peak at what moved me with Krisnamurti back then, but I can see how others can poke s|itloads of holes in it all.
However, when you're talking about the development of teenaged girls, ideological stances only get in the way and are pretty much piffle in comparision.
again, please understand that this thread got diverted in other areas, and i attempted to draw from where these took me.
k
I don't wanna know now if I was just taking a peek, or falling off one...
What boss is gonna tolerate me tho, screeching into his/her office every two hours yelling that the nth line in the mth paragraph in the report I've just handed over, is wrong with an error I have since estimated to be at z degrees? knowing me, I'll then throw down pgs of methodology to back me up...
Kay Neich Wrote:I hope any potential employer of mine will just see these rough notes of mine for what
these are - typos and poorly constructed noise galore. I was in a hurry to eat breakfast last time I wrote. I can give an ancient site of mine, http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/endurin...ative.html , for a peak...
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Climbing heuristic peaks and down again, takes me into too many reiterant diversions, methinks.
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Kay Neich Wrote:....... at what moved me with Krisnamurti back then, but I
can see how others can poke s|itloads of holes in it all.
However, when you're talking about the development of teenaged girls, ideological stances only get in the way and are pretty much piffle in comparision.
To provide a modification...:
Again, please understand that this thread got diverted in other areas, and i attempted to draw from where these diversions took me.
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There have been individuals in my life who selfidentify as being from either of two groups, loosely speaking, and that I've recently decided to cut a bit loose from. It's no reflection upon them at all, and I would still support from behind, and in ways unseen, so all of us get to live how we want. Continually, their comments have been like QueenA's to me for years (a once-off, however, I accept). I had forgotten that not everyone spoke that way, until i turned off with those who did it in my life and thus found there was such a difference. I think it is just a difference that others don't mind at all. in the case with the individuals i know, i've seen reasons why they have had to come across as so sure & abrasive as they seem to me. It is to do a bit with culture, i think - culture, i also think, entailing so much more than any ethnicity, and too integral as part of what any person is to conjure up into ideological bundles. The more i tease out what i don't feel all that comfortable with
in the context presenting to me now, the more i feel free to turn that around as well, and in another sense that doesnt come across here, can relate to those who may think me more oppositional.
Dad, btw, from his hospital bed last week, just shrugged his shoulders at how Christians don't seem to realize, that the personal salvation that some think we all want, is just actually their own issue. I've been thanked by some Christians too for what I share, because they say they've wondered what it is that keep some of the rest of us going!
Cheers at any rate
K
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