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10-17-2011, 02:48 PM
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Tongan nobles vote for law change ahead of court appearances
Posted at 00:36 on 18 October, 2011 UTC

The Tongan opposition leader Akilisi Pohiva says two nobles should never have been allowed to vote on a bill that had a direct impact on them.

Last week, parliament voted in favour of a bill that reduces the penalties for the illegal possession of firearms from seven years imprisionment to one year.
Lord Tui’ilakepa and Lord Tu’iha’ateiho both have court cases pending on charges relating to illegal possession of a firearm, yet they both voted in support of the bill.
Akilisi Pohiva says it was completely inappropriate.

“The speaker of the house should move that these two nobles who should not be in the house during the deliberation and the ballot they should be requested to move out from the house and allow the members to freely discuss the matter in question.” Akilisi Pohiva.

There have been recent reports that the speaker of parliament Lord Lasike is also due for a court date on one count of unlawful possession of ammunition.

Source: http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=63793
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10-17-2011, 05:14 PM (This post was last modified: 10-17-2011 05:18 PM by Fale.)
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(10-17-2011 02:48 PM)Admin Wrote:  Posted at 00:36 on 18 October, 2011 UTC

The Tongan opposition leader Akilisi Pohiva says two nobles should never have been allowed to vote on a bill that had a direct impact on them.

Last week, parliament voted in favour of a bill that reduces the penalties for the illegal possession of firearms from seven years imprisionment to one year.
Lord Tui’ilakepa and Lord Tu’iha’ateiho both have court cases pending on charges relating to illegal possession of a firearm, yet they both voted in support of the bill.
Akilisi Pohiva says it was completely inappropriate.

“The speaker of the house should move that these two nobles who should not be in the house during the deliberation and the ballot they should be requested to move out from the house and allow the members to freely discuss the matter in question.” Akilisi Pohiva.

There have been recent reports that the speaker of parliament Lord Lasike is also due for a court date on one count of unlawful possession of ammunition.

Source: http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=63793

UH huh !!!!! It's CORRUPTION AT ITS PRIME !!!!! You go 'Akilis Pohiva . Only in Tonga you can see CRIMINALS vote for their punishment and fate. .. most RIDICULOUS AND HUMILIATING !!! How can the Judicial system let SUCH CRIMINALS run the show? Or does the Tonga Justice Ministry have any credibility at all?
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10-17-2011, 05:54 PM
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This is really ffffcken upright corruption. How can this fffckn so-called democratic parliament allow for Lasike and Tu'ilakepa to join in the ballot on matters that related to decreasing the imprisonment from 5 years to 1 year for anyone found guilty of unlawful possessing of arms and drugs. I mean these two are currently facing criminal charges for the breach of the criminal laws. I mean, where the fuk were the representatives of the people to not stand up in opposition to this bill. It is obvious that the amendment was related to the likely defeat of the duo in their criminal court charges. One is a former Speaker of Parliament and the other is the currently Speaker. What a shame on the Tongan parliament to have two Speakers accused of serious criminal charges. The Speaker claims that they will remain innocent until found guilty...., yeah right. But, I guess for the interest of justice and common good for Tonga they should be taken to court immediately. I thought there was already a provision for this in the laws of Tonga to take Members of Parliament to Court on Criminal Cases even when the parliament is in seating.
Fakamamahi mo'oni ko e si'i 'ave 'a e kakai ma'ulalo 'o fakamaau'i pea tautea ngaue popula kae fakangalokuloku pe 'a e lao ia ki he kakai fakalielia pehe ni. Pea koeha ko aa e me'a 'etau paati 'oku faiii na'a faifai kuo hoka ha fu'u nopele ha ngutu 'o ha fakafofonga kae sio pe.... Pea ko e taha malanga'i 'a e ma'olunga 'o e Kupu 4 'o e Konisitutone, 'a e pau ke taha pe 'a e lao ki he Tonga kotoa, nopali pe kakai...
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10-18-2011, 01:04 AM
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Na'e osi kalanga mo malanga'i e Afuha'aMango he 'aho 'aneafi koe LAO moe KONISITUTONE a TONGA na'e osi FATU peia ke MALU'I aki ae VALEkaiDA'e moe FAKAEHAUAA a Ha'amoheofo mo ene kau NOpali pea he'ikai pe ketau toe ma'anu ki 'olung!!!!!!!!!!!!!fk'emeni atu Kia loufatai pea fk'ofa mo'oni ko si'otau ngaohi fai mo taa'i ha ki'i NOpali ke ziko moe fkhela.
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10-18-2011, 02:25 PM
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koe me'a 'eni 'oku tau ui koe Tamu tamu...
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10-18-2011, 04:51 PM
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Malo Feke mo Kehe 'a e poupou mai. Ko e 'atunga pe ia 'o e mamahi'i 'o e me'a 'oku ou tui ko e leleitaha ma'a Tonga. Pea toe mamahi mo e loto he sio atu ki he'enau sikosikoti mai pe 'i hotau mata kae 'ikai pe kenau pehe mai ko e ha kitautolu.

'Oku ou fokotu'u atu e fo'i me'a 'e ua. 1. Fiema'u ke discipline 'etau kau fakafofonga kenau toe mata'aa'aa ange pea 2. Fiema'u ke fakata'elata'i mo e kau fakafofonga 'o e kakai mo e kau Nopali 'oku nau mata'i fie valeloi 'i ha fa'ahinga founga pe ko eee 'e ala lava. Ka 'oku lava ke fakapupuuu'i he kakai pea 'ai... ka 'ikai pea 'oua pe toe lea taha ia kia kinautolu.... Why? they owe the people a great deal of explanation.



Ta he fanga puaka 'enau TAAMAI pe ko e fakamata mai honau nifo ke fa'o e pa'anga 'a hai.

(10-18-2011 02:25 PM)Kehekehe Wrote:  koe me'a 'eni 'oku tau ui koe Tamu tamu...
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10-19-2011, 03:54 AM
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'Oku mo'oni 'aupito Loufatai,'oku totonu ke toe siofi lelei e fili hoko 'ehe kakai e fonua 'a honau takitaha fkfofonga he kou siosio koe kau fkfofonga kuo ui kihe minisita kuo nau hee mo'oni pe kihe pule'anga he 'oku 'asi pe ia he taimi paloti,pea nau toki omi pe ki tu'a 'o toki mio'i holo ai kihonau taki taha vahe ka 'oku 'asi honau loto mo'oni 'onautolu he taimi paloti,koia ai tau toe fkkaukau'i ange mu'a he fili hoko e fa'ahinga koia (kau heke ngofua)ke tuku kitu'a he ka 'ikai ko'etau 'atunga pe 'eni he ta'u kihe ta'u koe loto 'uli aipe kihe kau ma'u mafai.
He koe liliu pe lao ko'ena he tali hopo ko'ena pea 'osi pe ia pea mou toe 'ai lao fo'ou ke toe hiki hake tautea 'ihe kaha'u pea 'osi ange koe ngaue pe 'oku lava 'ihe fale alea tonga koe ngaahi pe honau lao.
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12-12-2011, 07:14 PM (This post was last modified: 12-12-2011 07:22 PM by Uoleva.)
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(10-17-2011 02:48 PM)Admin Wrote:  Posted at 00:36 on 18 October, 2011 UTC

The Tongan opposition leader Akilisi Pohiva says two nobles should never have been allowed to vote on a bill that had a direct impact on them.

Last week, parliament voted in favour of a bill that reduces the penalties for the illegal possession of firearms from seven years imprisionment to one year.
Lord Tui’ilakepa and Lord Tu’iha’ateiho both have court cases pending on charges relating to illegal possession of a firearm, yet they both voted in support of the bill.
Akilisi Pohiva says it was completely inappropriate.

“The speaker of the house should move that these two nobles who should not be in the house during the deliberation and the ballot they should be requested to move out from the house and allow the members to freely discuss the matter in question.” Akilisi Pohiva.

There have been recent reports that the speaker of parliament Lord Lasike is also due for a court date on one count of unlawful possession of ammunition.

Source: http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=63793

One can be forgiven if one asked as to whether this Parliamentary Bill has been given the Royal Assent by the King ? It will be interesting indeed if the Royal Assent is not forthcoming. What woould that mean in real political terms in Tonga ?

Should Tonga look closer at its politicians and how they are elected ? Should there be more stringent checks & balances in the political set-up and process ?
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12-14-2011, 07:29 PM
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Koe me'angaue pe 'e taha 'e lava ke fai ai ha feinga 'aia koe Fili ke tonu ke 'ave 'ae kakai lelei ki falealea kae tuku pee 'ae kau kaihaha'a moe kaakaa ke tau nofo pe 'i 'api 'o fanga puaka.'Oku 'ikai fai ha bingo 'i falealea.
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